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thanks for doing this I appreciate it

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you were you were actually my f I think

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you were my very first guest

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as well on this show

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which is going back almost three years

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now so it's pretty interesting that that

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we've uh you know so you've been paying

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attention to UFO news and stuff a lot

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longer than I have but you know we've

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been watching the same stuff kind of

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unfold over the last three years just

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together

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um I'm interested on your perspective

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here do you think that and you can

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include you know stuff beyond the three

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years but do you think we're closer to

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any sort of real disclosure right now

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we're learning more about the phenomenon

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or any secrets the government may have

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or farther than that than we use no I I

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think we're definitely closer since

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before December of 2017. I mean this

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December will be

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six years since the New York Times

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article right 17 so yeah

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um how much closer we are to us the

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general public finding out information

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that basically cements the fact that

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there's a non-human intelligence here

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like we all believe

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um

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I don't know I mean you hear there are

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people there's a list of people who have

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been predicting

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stuff for

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2023 before the end of the year you have

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John Ramirez former CIA saying around

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Labor Day it's gonna happen you have Bob

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McGuire who was the he was the chief

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scientist at the Hume Center

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um he says by Thanksgiving they're going

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to make an announcement uh government

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Representatives uh Stephen Bassett by

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the end of the year Stephen Bassett has

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been talking about disclosure for a long

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time since I've gotten into this in the

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mid 90s Richard butt who is a defense

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he's an Intel person that's a fake name

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he says there's going to be an

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announcement through some sort of

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Representatives that were dealing with

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the non-human intelligence before the

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end of the year Gary Nolan said right by

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the summer there's going to be people

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that come forward that's basically going

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to change a lot of opinions so we'll see

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I mean

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dates always scary and usually dates

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come with predictions by you know

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psychic predictions by the end of 2024

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there's going to be an earthquake and

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none of that stuff ever happens uh Lu El

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zondo said 2023 is going to be an

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interesting year

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so so yeah I think stuff's gonna happen

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I don't know how far it's gonna go and I

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want to keep my expectations low I used

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to be the opposite Sean I used to be

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so excited and then when if something

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didn't happen I would get depressed it

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didn't happen and then I'd I'd bounce

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back in a day or two now I'm like let's

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see what happens you know right let's be

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pleasantly surprised

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um and what is disclosure what what will

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be enough I think for the general public

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I don't know if will it take a craft

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being shown will it take a body being

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shown I don't know a clear-cut a

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clear-cut video of something that just

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is so amazing that we obviously couldn't

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replicate it or could we have that'll

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always be in the background oh maybe

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that's hours so I don't know it depends

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on what you think disclosure is but I

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think we're heading in the right

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direction I mean right look at all the

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coverage we're getting you know not the

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coverage we really expected when the

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whole ndaa stuff came out you I thought

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there would be a lot of coverage but

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there really wasn't yeah especially with

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the language that was in it the language

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was really amazing I didn't expect that

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to happen if you would ask me in 2017 I

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mean no I don't think we're coming we're

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coming along that fast but we are we

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you had senator gillibrand in her

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hearing with Kirkpatrick she said we

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don't know on some of these UAP we don't

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know who's operating we don't know their

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origin so yeah that was that was a big

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deal yeah even though the whole hearing

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overall wasn't you know wasn't anything

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fantastic for us right it was still a

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hearing and you know in the span of uh

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U.S government history uh you know

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hearings on UFOs are are quite rare so

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you know whether it be you know

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revealing or not uh going backwards just

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a little bit you know you mentioned

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um Everybody kind of saying on stuff is

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happening this year and and you know not

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liking dates and and me myself having

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spent so much time in the last couple

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years like looking at you know past

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documents and newspaper accounts and you

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know what other things have come up

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um in the past I've seen things where

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you know a Navy rocket scientist says

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you know aliens are are coming you know

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by by a certain month invading Earth or

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whatever and yeah it doesn't happen so

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manage those and you mentioned you know

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kind of depressed about when things

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didn't happen so how do you manage

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expectations like that when people are

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kind of putting things out there to lift

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up your expectations

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if we learn from history

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those will be deflated you know so how

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can people avoid

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you know living that emotional roller

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coaster yeah I mean I don't know how

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other people can do it I can tell you

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how I do it for me yeah I mean there's

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so much stuff you know I do transcripts

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I do a lot of transcripts and and I have

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so many that are sitting there 90 on 80

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percent done

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um some I want to start and I'm always

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busy doing that and I'll never catch up

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so I always have that when things slow

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down or things don't happen the way

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people predict I'm like all right I have

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time I'll have a couple of weeks here to

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try to get caught up which I never do so

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I think of it like that and plus there's

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so much stuff I don't know there's so

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much stuff I don't know there's more

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about this phenomenon that I don't know

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that I do know so it gives me more time

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to learn new things and there's always

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new things to learn even when I think

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you know oh I ran out of stuff there's

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really nothing new to learn then

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something pops up well that's

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interesting a lot of and a lot of stuff

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I like is is speculative

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um sure but I enjoy it it's you know

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people are like you believe that I'm

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like no I it's interesting I think maybe

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it resonates with me it doesn't mean

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it's true though so sure and I I keep my

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expectations low I hear something like

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that's interesting I get a little

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excited every now and then but

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um and then you know outside of the UFOs

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for me it's I focus I have fun with

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sports so it's like at night that's my

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getaway that's my getaway from

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from UFOs I have to do that because the

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lately I have been getting burned out

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than usual I mean I've gone through

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periods of burnout but now it's like it

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seems like every other day I'm like I

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need a break so I'm trying to back off

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just a little bit and it's hard because

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I'm like I have information I want to

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get out that I think it's important but

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you know I don't want to get burned out

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to the point where I'm like have I

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thought about just totally giving up

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totally 100 UFOs and just going about a

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normal life where you work and then you

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have time off it's not possible no I

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mean I thought about it but I couldn't

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do it yeah I don't think I could do it

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so yeah no I I understand what you mean

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and you know I think it was George knepp

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who said this before like UFOs are

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supposed to be fun

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you know I know I know that's kind of a

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general statement you just can't nail it

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down to just fun or whatever but the the

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idea of that is very true like if you

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can't manage to enjoy yourself

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um you know when when being in this

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community and and following this news

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and looking at cases or whatever it

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might not be a good idea so if you get

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burned out maybe taking a break I took a

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break for like three months once you

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um and guess what like it was still a

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mystery so

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yeah I didn't miss anything so yeah I

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wouldn't be you know I think we're we

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would miss something but I I do think in

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my head I'm like what if I did come back

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you know a year from now with the same

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arguments be you know on UFO Twitter be

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made and probably and and I do have fun

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doing this obviously and even even when

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I'm doing transcripts even when they get

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some of them are really long but I still

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like it and I try not my my thing is to

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do a transcript I try not to listen

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it's kind of hard I need to know if it's

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worth it or not but like a three-hour

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luau Elizondo interview it's fun

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sometimes not always

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you know um can you probably pick up you

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probably hear a lot you probably pick

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out and hear it in spot a lot more than

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the average listener as well if if

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you're actually you know typing out what

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they say like it kind of forces you to

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pay attention to everything exactly and

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then there are times when I hear

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something I'm pretty good at hearing an

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interview I'm like right away I'm like

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that's new that's different that's a

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shift from what that person said before

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especially with Lou Lou it's more

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usually something new

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um and if somebody makes a mistake

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they'll say something about ASAP or

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dates on a tip that'll stand out to me

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too like Danny Sheehan the other day

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said something about why Lou left

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his job at the Pentagon and it was

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something I had never heard before I I

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think he misspoke and I don't remember

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exactly what it was you know the story

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we've always heard is Lou got frustrated

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because the information wasn't being you

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know sent up the chain of command then

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he finally said that's it but she and

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story was different so I'm like all

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right that stands out I'm gonna have to

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transcribe that and say what what's up

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Danny because that doesn't sound right

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yeah what did he say

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do you if you remember I don't remember

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I need to go back and look it was a

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recent interview that's why we need the

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transcripts I know I know like if I hit

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the lottery I told people I will hire

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multiple transcribers I mean I use AI

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but it's still not the same it's not

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perfect it's not close to perfect it's

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good

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and when somebody speaks slow and they

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enunciate it's really good

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um but it's still Mrs grammar it misses

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words it doesn't understand Arrow yet

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because it spells it Arrow it's in a bow

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and arrow stuff like that yeah

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no you idiot no you can't teach it stuff

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I just haven't been good at teaching no

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that's okay so

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you know

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Jeremy Corbell let's talk about this for

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a second so yeah so he's he's come up

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with some information uh the lights are

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over Camp Wilson or whatever out in

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California

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a couple Marines you got audio

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recordings of them giving a little

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testimony and gave some video and some

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photos and actually for once I would say

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maybe he didn't

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you know and I'm only mentioning this

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because I know some people complain

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about it but he didn't really he didn't

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hype it like at all

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um maybe he had one tweet about a high

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noon thing you could put that piece

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together but other than that there was

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nothing you know he comes out with this

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and people get excited at first and then

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seems like Mick West may have you know

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put the best case forward as far as

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matching the flare pattern up

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um I'm no genius though so I I don't

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know if that's an accurate way to assess

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it or not but but like how do you assess

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this situation because you know Jeremy's

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contributed and George obviously more

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than most people

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um to the field and he's getting beat up

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right now yeah well I mean

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it's difficult people make mistakes but

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did he make a mistake he didn't I don't

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think he thinks he did so like

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how do you treat this situation as a as

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a viewer you know as someone who's

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interested yeah I mean I listened I

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listened to the interviews and you know

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the witness or the witnesses or who work

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in artillery and are familiar with

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flares or saying these weren't flares

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they stayed up for 10 minutes you know

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players don't stay up that long and I

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don't know I don't know how long players

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stay up but and then I saw him I make

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make West's video and it's like

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there was a training exercise going on

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and he showed these flares and it

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matches up almost exactly with what this

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object alleged object was so it's like

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right I mean there are people that and

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I'm like this seems like a done deal

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this was a this this seems like flares

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um and there are people saying well the

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government may have shot up flares

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afterwards like in the Phoenix Lights

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case because Phoenix lights in 97 There

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Was You know the I the object and then

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later on there were flares that were

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shot up but it's like they're going to

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shoot up flares and they're going to

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match the pattern of the UAP exactly

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come on that's ridiculous and then

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people are like it's a psyop and no it

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just might be

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Jeremy I mean people like why didn't you

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know there were exercises going on well

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that that area that that whole thousand

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square mile of 29 Palms Marine combat

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Center they do exercises all the time

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that's not the issue the issue is

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there's that little video at the very

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end of of it was documented online and

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at the very end there's those lights

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that are flares it's right at the very

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end for four seconds and then Mick West

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Saw and compared it and Jeremy obviously

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didn't see it as far as I know and he

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missed it

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um I don't think he's convinced I know

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he says there are other Witnesses out

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there who say no these are those are not

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flares and you hear the guys talking

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saying I've seen I know people who

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working all this with this military

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technology and those are not flares and

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but they look like I mean they look like

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what do you do he's asking this guy

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Jeremy corbell's asking this guy why are

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these not flares you know and I know and

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the witnesses is like 100 so it's like

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people should I mean right away they're

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they're taking shots at Jeremy like he

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said because there are people who hate

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Jeremy and they're just waiting for a

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mistake before he knows it

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um and then this might be a mistake so

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it's like you know the witnesses bear a

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little responsibility here too and

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um so it's like for us it's like for me

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I I put out a transcript of what the

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military Witnesses said to him and I'm

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moving on Because unless something new

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comes out there's really not much else

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to say it's a mistake it's one case

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there's other stuff not related to this

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that's going on behind the scenes

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hopefully that's gonna take over the

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entire UFO World soon and we don't gotta

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talk about it I mean I don't like

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talking about mistakes people are like

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oh you're not going to point it out I'll

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point it out but I'm not going to be

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Richie vitriolic about it I'm not going

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to be like there's no point somebody

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yeah yeah somebody was taking

401
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you're going to call yourself

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investigative reporters you need to do

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investigative reporting

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it's like I know those guys do a lot of

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stuff George has his day job you know

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this is more Germany you know Jeremy's

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trying to get the podcast together I'm

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not going to defend him he's a big boy

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he can defend himself so let it play out

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and see what all the witnesses come

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forward as far as I know as far as

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that's kind of where I'm at is what the

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witnesses if we have that many witnesses

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like let's you know hopefully at some

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point we get to hear what they say and

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um and why they say it you know and if

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you have 50 people kind of I'm not

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saying that what this is gonna happen or

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isn't but if you have 50 people that you

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know kind of repeat what

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testimony he's gotten already like what

422
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do you do in that situation you got 50

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people saying I saw like a crap yeah

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there was like 50 people there and he

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said but basically all of us were

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baffled so it's like yeah

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you didn't hear you know I know it's a

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large area I guess but but you didn't

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hear any military drills going on you

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know it was pretty pretty silent so

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that's nice and in my tweet today I said

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um you know they talked about how it was

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a 60 plus truck Caravan that went out

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right after the object disappeared I

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don't think they sent out 60 trucks to

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go

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right for a UFO that blinked out in the

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air maybe they would send helicopters

439
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but I don't think why would you send

440
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it's probably that sounds like the

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exercise right right right yeah what

442
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would you do with 60 trucks yeah what

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are they gonna do I mean

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yeah right right right

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well

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um what what are you looking forward to

447
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in the upcoming year I mean well

448
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actually I wanted to talk about this and

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I don't know you know I can you know the

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good part about pre-recording is I can

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edit out anything we decide that I

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wanted don't want or whatever but

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um I feel like

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and I don't want to go down the Debbie

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down the road but I feel like ufology is

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getting really beat up right now

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um because of like maybe this not just

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the Corbell thing that was just happened

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but like and that Dean Douglas is going

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after Jacques valet and Trinity

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and well she did really good work I mean

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I spoke to somebody last night and

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they're like it's excellent I'm like

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yeah he did a really good job it doesn't

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detract from everything Bell I did it's

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one case yeah pretty big case it's a

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crash retrieval case but right and then

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you have and then you have um Holloman

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are you gonna bring that up yes Holloman

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yeah I was very skeptical as I was

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watching for people who don't know in

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the in the movie the documentary UFO's

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past present and future I think they

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should show it in the video I'll edit it

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in or something yeah it's a good

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documentary you see a young ballet in

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there and they also do a segment on

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Holloman and yeah they show like eight

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seconds

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looks like this it looks maybe like a

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glowing UFO coming down at home it looks

482
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like every UFO video ever yeah you know

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the glowing white ball and this guy did

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a really good job showing that it was an

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F4 uh plane coming down a few it was

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years after the event and it was done

487
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during the time they shot a reenactment

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for the documentary it's clear clear as

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day when you watch it but the guy who

490
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did it he goes I'm not convinced that

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the event didn't happen you know

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supposedly extraterrestrials or

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non-humans or whatever they were came

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down and met with high

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ranking members of the military like I'm

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not convinced that didn't happen and I

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will address that in another video and

498
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you know Eric Davis talked about it

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according to Jacques Bella in his latest

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book Forbidden Science falling fob

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saying

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I think he said that George Bush Senior

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told him it happened

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um that is so hard for me to to take in

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and just go oh okay that happened isn't

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that like I know um that is that's a

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hard one for me I had heard it before

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ballet's book um supposedly George Bush

509
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heard it when he was the director of the

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CIA but doesn't make it true it doesn't

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make it true

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um I asked Lou about it uh when he was

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on

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a show with Sean Cahill and Lou's like

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yeah he goes there's a lot of stories

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about it he goes who knows if all of

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it's true or some of it is true but yeah

518
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that story is out there and that would

519
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be

520
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I mean that's talk about contact if

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that's true and I don't I don't know

522
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it's true but yeah it's like what the

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heck about that video yeah who has that

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yeah exactly oh my God I mean

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pay-per-view put it on pay-per-view yeah

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yeah

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oh man there are people who think people

528
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involved I forget the names thought

529
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maybe it was a Hollywood production

530
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showing people how uh contact would take

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place and then other people who watched

532
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it allegedly said no way this was a

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non-human intelligence interacting

534
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yeah but only a couple people have seen

535
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it as far as we know

536
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um how do you think like contact like a

537
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mass contact how would that take place

538
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do you think I expect it obviously we're

539
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speculating but let's have fun with it

540
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do you see like a bunch of ships popping

541
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up or everyone gets telepathy

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um

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I don't know if they would just make

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contact but let's assume that as a

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society we it's it's it's a given we

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finally accepted that

547
00:20:14,630 --> 00:20:13,140
you know they're here whoever they are

548
00:20:17,029 --> 00:20:14,640
and then

549
00:20:19,970 --> 00:20:17,039
maybe some sort of

550
00:20:21,650 --> 00:20:19,980
clear-cut daylight multiple craft in the

551
00:20:22,730 --> 00:20:21,660
sky and then come down maybe in the

552
00:20:25,010 --> 00:20:22,740
middle of a

553
00:20:27,110 --> 00:20:25,020
you know uh

554
00:20:28,490 --> 00:20:27,120
a valley somewhere not not on the White

555
00:20:31,610 --> 00:20:28,500
House lawn because you know we'd bomb

556
00:20:34,610 --> 00:20:31,620
them we try to

557
00:20:36,110 --> 00:20:34,620
um and fail most likely telepathy I mean

558
00:20:37,909 --> 00:20:36,120
that could be a effective way we're all

559
00:20:38,870 --> 00:20:37,919
getting a clear-cut message in our head

560
00:20:40,130 --> 00:20:38,880
okay

561
00:20:42,169 --> 00:20:40,140
and they're saying you have those

562
00:20:43,549 --> 00:20:42,179
abilities too but yeah

563
00:20:45,830 --> 00:20:43,559
um I don't know how people would react

564
00:20:49,310 --> 00:20:45,840
to any of that because people like the

565
00:20:51,409 --> 00:20:49,320
blue beam thing or something yeah

566
00:20:53,270 --> 00:20:51,419
um but people are still I know people if

567
00:20:54,830 --> 00:20:53,280
you if you look at the polls people are

568
00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:54,840
like I don't know what the percentage is

569
00:20:59,510 --> 00:20:56,640
but people in America and the world they

570
00:21:01,070 --> 00:20:59,520
think that we're not alone in UFOs you

571
00:21:02,710 --> 00:21:01,080
know a non-human intelligence may be

572
00:21:05,810 --> 00:21:02,720
here but that's a little different than

573
00:21:07,730 --> 00:21:05,820
seeing it you know seeing it and then

574
00:21:10,610 --> 00:21:07,740
seeing a non-human what if the non-human

575
00:21:13,190 --> 00:21:10,620
looks like a reptilian it's like how are

576
00:21:16,850 --> 00:21:13,200
people going to react to that not well

577
00:21:20,510 --> 00:21:16,860
oh no not not well at all yeah I don't

578
00:21:22,070 --> 00:21:20,520
know and yeah I wonder if it would

579
00:21:25,430 --> 00:21:22,080
now I always wonder if there's like

580
00:21:27,350 --> 00:21:25,440
multiple species or just one

581
00:21:29,390 --> 00:21:27,360
you know is it just one doing all this

582
00:21:31,730 --> 00:21:29,400
different stuff or is it

583
00:21:35,690 --> 00:21:31,740
multiple species and there's good cases

584
00:21:37,180 --> 00:21:35,700
for both yeah yeah you ask me I mean

585
00:21:39,590 --> 00:21:37,190
yeah right

586
00:21:43,010 --> 00:21:39,600
[Laughter]

587
00:21:46,250 --> 00:21:43,020
yeah humanoids Grays like nordics you

588
00:21:48,529 --> 00:21:46,260
know Giants Bigfoot like

589
00:21:50,149 --> 00:21:48,539
or is this yeah like a Jacques valet

590
00:21:52,370 --> 00:21:50,159
deception thing

591
00:21:54,169 --> 00:21:52,380
I know it's like I don't know and it's

592
00:21:55,490 --> 00:21:54,179
like there are people out there I could

593
00:21:57,950 --> 00:21:55,500
see like 10 years from now we're going

594
00:22:00,289 --> 00:21:57,960
to be saying can you believe so and so

595
00:22:02,149 --> 00:22:00,299
was right I cannot believe so and so was

596
00:22:04,130 --> 00:22:02,159
right it's like yeah the guy we thought

597
00:22:05,230 --> 00:22:04,140
was crazy turned out to be right all

598
00:22:07,250 --> 00:22:05,240
this time

599
00:22:10,430 --> 00:22:07,260
you know there's so many names you could

600
00:22:14,750 --> 00:22:10,440
put out there but you know it's not name

601
00:22:15,890 --> 00:22:14,760
any he's not crazy yeah no John Keel I

602
00:22:18,649 --> 00:22:15,900
would I would think would probably be

603
00:22:20,510 --> 00:22:18,659
the most you know at least like the way

604
00:22:22,789 --> 00:22:20,520
he approaches it in in Jack Valley

605
00:22:25,190 --> 00:22:22,799
they're similar in some sense but I mean

606
00:22:28,430 --> 00:22:25,200
I appreciate how they come up with

607
00:22:31,250 --> 00:22:28,440
formulas that can kind of account for it

608
00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:31,260
all you know like

609
00:22:36,110 --> 00:22:34,320
in looking at Blue Book files you find a

610
00:22:37,130 --> 00:22:36,120
lot of like recovered specimens and

611
00:22:41,690 --> 00:22:37,140
stuff

612
00:22:43,130 --> 00:22:41,700
like just weird pieces of metal that are

613
00:22:45,770 --> 00:22:43,140
just normal

614
00:22:47,870 --> 00:22:45,780
you know compounds and makeup or you

615
00:22:52,010 --> 00:22:47,880
know pieces of rope and then you listen

616
00:22:53,750 --> 00:22:52,020
to like uh you know Keel in in his book

617
00:22:56,090 --> 00:22:53,760
and he's talking about the same thing

618
00:22:58,370 --> 00:22:56,100
and about how the this phenomenon like

619
00:23:00,409 --> 00:22:58,380
drops this stuff just to screw with us

620
00:23:03,529 --> 00:23:00,419
yeah and it makes so much sense because

621
00:23:06,110 --> 00:23:03,539
otherwise like people are reporting like

622
00:23:08,029 --> 00:23:06,120
these weird things falling out of the

623
00:23:10,990 --> 00:23:08,039
sky and picking it up like

624
00:23:14,270 --> 00:23:11,000
that made absolutely no sense

625
00:23:16,850 --> 00:23:14,280
you know like why what what is that for

626
00:23:18,950 --> 00:23:16,860
I know it makes you wonder as he said

627
00:23:21,169 --> 00:23:18,960
you know something's messing with us

628
00:23:23,210 --> 00:23:21,179
just for the devil just for the devil of

629
00:23:25,789 --> 00:23:23,220
it and you know right Jim semi event

630
00:23:27,770 --> 00:23:25,799
says something's effing with us

631
00:23:30,049 --> 00:23:27,780
um some people get healed some people

632
00:23:32,029 --> 00:23:30,059
get injured you have old reports with

633
00:23:35,270 --> 00:23:32,039
Charles Fort Fish coming from this guy

634
00:23:39,730 --> 00:23:35,280
blood Raining Blood all this weird stuff

635
00:23:45,049 --> 00:23:42,110
stuff coming from UFOs is that really

636
00:23:47,630 --> 00:23:45,059
coming from the UFO or is it them

637
00:23:49,310 --> 00:23:47,640
you know just messing with us it's not

638
00:23:51,169 --> 00:23:49,320
really anything like here you go good

639
00:23:52,310 --> 00:23:51,179
good luck studying it because you're not

640
00:23:53,690 --> 00:23:52,320
going to understand anything because

641
00:23:55,730 --> 00:23:53,700
there's really nothing too we're just

642
00:23:57,770 --> 00:23:55,740
we're just screwing with you because we

643
00:23:59,149 --> 00:23:57,780
have nothing better to do you're a lower

644
00:24:01,010 --> 00:23:59,159
life form we don't really don't care

645
00:24:02,690 --> 00:24:01,020
about you that's that would be my best

646
00:24:03,470 --> 00:24:02,700
bet if people said what's your best bet

647
00:24:05,270 --> 00:24:03,480
is

648
00:24:08,690 --> 00:24:05,280
something higher higher intelligence

649
00:24:10,430 --> 00:24:08,700
that looks at looks at us as we look at

650
00:24:12,649 --> 00:24:10,440
I wouldn't say cats or dogs but just

651
00:24:13,970 --> 00:24:12,659
wildlife in general you know not cows

652
00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:13,980
because they probably I wouldn't think

653
00:24:17,810 --> 00:24:15,840
they eat us although it can't rule out

654
00:24:20,450 --> 00:24:17,820
maybe that happens on maybe a little bit

655
00:24:23,149 --> 00:24:20,460
there's been reports yeah there's many

656
00:24:24,890 --> 00:24:23,159
reports of human mutilations but I would

657
00:24:26,510 --> 00:24:24,900
think that overall they just do their

658
00:24:29,090 --> 00:24:26,520
thing and we're just in the way

659
00:24:30,830 --> 00:24:29,100
sometimes and they don't really care

660
00:24:33,590 --> 00:24:30,840
what happens to us maybe a couple of

661
00:24:36,049 --> 00:24:33,600
them will show some interest but I don't

662
00:24:39,289 --> 00:24:36,059
know you know maybe

663
00:24:41,390 --> 00:24:39,299
you know that just crossed my mind

664
00:24:43,010 --> 00:24:41,400
you know if they they would be you know

665
00:24:44,930 --> 00:24:43,020
this is all hypothetical I'm going to

666
00:24:48,950 --> 00:24:44,940
put a big banner on this video that says

667
00:24:51,649 --> 00:24:49,610
um

668
00:24:56,210 --> 00:24:51,659
what if there were two

669
00:24:59,210 --> 00:24:56,220
maybe drop this odd prosaic material

670
00:25:02,330 --> 00:24:59,220
just to see what we would do with it how

671
00:25:04,390 --> 00:25:02,340
do we react to a strange material you

672
00:25:08,810 --> 00:25:04,400
know kind of like

673
00:25:11,210 --> 00:25:08,820
mice or a mouse trap like setting them

674
00:25:14,210 --> 00:25:11,220
up in certain situations to you know

675
00:25:16,250 --> 00:25:14,220
record their behavior

676
00:25:19,370 --> 00:25:16,260
no yeah that could be what's going on

677
00:25:21,169 --> 00:25:19,380
and Nolan has mentioned at least in one

678
00:25:23,990 --> 00:25:21,179
interview we might be

679
00:25:26,029 --> 00:25:24,000
part of some sort of farm you know oh

680
00:25:28,370 --> 00:25:26,039
God forbid I mean yeah

681
00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:28,380
for me for me it's like whatever the

682
00:25:31,909 --> 00:25:30,240
case is I don't care I mean I'm not

683
00:25:33,710 --> 00:25:31,919
gonna I'm not gonna flip out whatever

684
00:25:35,510 --> 00:25:33,720
the story is I don't think we're gonna

685
00:25:37,010 --> 00:25:35,520
learn like say we are some sort of some

686
00:25:39,649 --> 00:25:37,020
farm for

687
00:25:41,750 --> 00:25:39,659
the using us for various groups are

688
00:25:44,510 --> 00:25:41,760
using us for various things whether it's

689
00:25:46,430 --> 00:25:44,520
you know DNA or biological material

690
00:25:49,010 --> 00:25:46,440
whatever the case there's really nothing

691
00:25:50,930 --> 00:25:49,020
nothing we can do about it

692
00:25:53,870 --> 00:25:50,940
um I'm not gonna get depressed over that

693
00:25:55,549 --> 00:25:53,880
I mean especially if we're more than a

694
00:25:57,649 --> 00:25:55,559
physical body if we're more you know if

695
00:26:00,769 --> 00:25:57,659
we're Spiritual Beings that survive

696
00:26:02,690 --> 00:26:00,779
death and you know I really am not going

697
00:26:04,370 --> 00:26:02,700
to worry about what what's going on in

698
00:26:06,890 --> 00:26:04,380
the physical not that I want to just let

699
00:26:08,890 --> 00:26:06,900
it happen I mean like cat like if cows

700
00:26:10,970 --> 00:26:08,900
could stop us from

701
00:26:13,730 --> 00:26:10,980
slaughtering them and eating them they

702
00:26:15,649 --> 00:26:13,740
would they can't now whatever's

703
00:26:18,430 --> 00:26:15,659
happening to us say it's negative can we

704
00:26:20,810 --> 00:26:18,440
stop it yeah if we can't we'll you know

705
00:26:22,490 --> 00:26:20,820
obviously we can't worry about it right

706
00:26:23,990 --> 00:26:22,500
like you said if you know there's like

707
00:26:26,690 --> 00:26:24,000
some sort of afterlife where your spirit

708
00:26:28,730 --> 00:26:26,700
moves on it's kind of like you know your

709
00:26:30,409 --> 00:26:28,740
last day of work like you're still at

710
00:26:32,830 --> 00:26:30,419
work but you know you're you're done

711
00:26:35,570 --> 00:26:32,840
with it so whatever

712
00:26:38,990 --> 00:26:35,580
yeah you really want to cut your finger

713
00:26:40,430 --> 00:26:39,000
as a sous chef but I don't want people

714
00:26:43,070 --> 00:26:40,440
to think that I'm just I would just say

715
00:26:45,710 --> 00:26:43,080
oh whatever no I would still try to fix

716
00:26:49,430 --> 00:26:45,720
things and try to make things good on

717
00:26:52,190 --> 00:26:49,440
this planet you know but in the big

718
00:26:54,409 --> 00:26:52,200
scheme of things I'm just imagining you

719
00:26:55,970 --> 00:26:54,419
doing that yeah like flipping people off

720
00:26:57,250 --> 00:26:55,980
whatever bro I'm leaving

721
00:27:00,649 --> 00:26:57,260
[Laughter]

722
00:27:03,649 --> 00:27:00,659
I don't belong here yeah that's one of

723
00:27:06,529 --> 00:27:03,659
the things reasons why I like reading up

724
00:27:09,190 --> 00:27:06,539
on afterlife stuff and you know I've

725
00:27:11,870 --> 00:27:09,200
tweeted about and and spoken about

726
00:27:15,470 --> 00:27:11,880
people talking about The Reincarnation

727
00:27:19,010 --> 00:27:15,480
trap and soul trap and simulation I like

728
00:27:20,690 --> 00:27:19,020
all of that stuff reincarnation trip so

729
00:27:22,909 --> 00:27:20,700
if you look at the evidence for

730
00:27:25,250 --> 00:27:22,919
reincarnation it's really really good

731
00:27:26,750 --> 00:27:25,260
you know Ian Stevenson and then after he

732
00:27:28,669 --> 00:27:26,760
died it was the University of Virginia

733
00:27:30,649 --> 00:27:28,679
where he did most of his work

734
00:27:33,169 --> 00:27:30,659
um he found like three to four thousand

735
00:27:35,210 --> 00:27:33,179
cases of children where they remember a

736
00:27:37,010 --> 00:27:35,220
past life really detailed and they'll

737
00:27:39,049 --> 00:27:37,020
say to their parents at a very young age

738
00:27:40,490 --> 00:27:39,059
you're not my parents you need to take

739
00:27:41,630 --> 00:27:40,500
me to see my real parents they live in

740
00:27:43,250 --> 00:27:41,640
this town

741
00:27:44,390 --> 00:27:43,260
so the parents will finally give in and

742
00:27:47,510 --> 00:27:44,400
they'll they'll go there and they'll

743
00:27:48,769 --> 00:27:47,520
name the entire family they know them by

744
00:27:49,370 --> 00:27:48,779
name

745
00:27:52,190 --> 00:27:49,380
um

746
00:27:54,230 --> 00:27:52,200
and then in some cases uh they're

747
00:27:57,470 --> 00:27:54,240
they're they have body they have

748
00:28:00,590 --> 00:27:57,480
birthmarks or wounds not not no scars

749
00:28:02,630 --> 00:28:00,600
and birthmarks okay and they and they'll

750
00:28:05,269 --> 00:28:02,640
investigate the previous personality

751
00:28:07,250 --> 00:28:05,279
that this child claimed to be and the

752
00:28:09,470 --> 00:28:07,260
death wounds from that body match up

753
00:28:11,149 --> 00:28:09,480
with the birthmarks on this body the

754
00:28:13,190 --> 00:28:11,159
body so it's like what are the chances

755
00:28:14,870 --> 00:28:13,200
within millimeters so there's there's

756
00:28:17,390 --> 00:28:14,880
some really good evidence that

757
00:28:19,010 --> 00:28:17,400
reincarnation is legitimate not proof

758
00:28:21,230 --> 00:28:19,020
and then

759
00:28:22,669 --> 00:28:21,240
the thing is so why don't we remember so

760
00:28:24,529 --> 00:28:22,679
people like why aren't we remembering

761
00:28:27,049 --> 00:28:24,539
these lives some somehow every time we

762
00:28:28,549 --> 00:28:27,059
get born our memories are wiped so how

763
00:28:30,409 --> 00:28:28,559
are we if we're here to learn lessons

764
00:28:31,970 --> 00:28:30,419
how are we going to learn a lesson if

765
00:28:33,350 --> 00:28:31,980
our memory is a wipe we have nothing to

766
00:28:35,390 --> 00:28:33,360
base it on

767
00:28:37,430 --> 00:28:35,400
um so that I don't know who first

768
00:28:39,289 --> 00:28:37,440
brought up the reincarnation trap idea

769
00:28:41,810 --> 00:28:39,299
but it seems like we're just in a cycle

770
00:28:44,570 --> 00:28:41,820
over and over again and we're getting

771
00:28:46,250 --> 00:28:44,580
tricked by some deception to keep coming

772
00:28:47,810 --> 00:28:46,260
back here and it's really interesting to

773
00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:47,820
hear some of the near-death experiences

774
00:28:52,310 --> 00:28:49,679
looked at from a different perspective

775
00:28:53,330 --> 00:28:52,320
right because you always hear the same

776
00:28:55,130 --> 00:28:53,340
yeah

777
00:28:56,570 --> 00:28:55,140
you listen to the stories and like

778
00:28:57,769 --> 00:28:56,580
they're they're looking at it really

779
00:28:59,690 --> 00:28:57,779
positive they're like oh and I've

780
00:29:01,370 --> 00:28:59,700
encountered this being it was an amazing

781
00:29:03,110 --> 00:29:01,380
feeling of love and they said you can't

782
00:29:04,549 --> 00:29:03,120
come anymore you have to go back it's

783
00:29:05,990 --> 00:29:04,559
not your time and then you look at it

784
00:29:08,090 --> 00:29:06,000
from the other perspective I'm like

785
00:29:09,409 --> 00:29:08,100
what's going on here are they just

786
00:29:11,930 --> 00:29:09,419
trying to convince us to come back right

787
00:29:13,430 --> 00:29:11,940
right yes you want to really get into

788
00:29:15,830 --> 00:29:13,440
now but there's some really good people

789
00:29:17,029 --> 00:29:15,840
on YouTube that talk about this and I

790
00:29:19,490 --> 00:29:17,039
heard about it I'm like this is really

791
00:29:21,649 --> 00:29:19,500
interesting and it makes sense I don't

792
00:29:23,990 --> 00:29:21,659
know if it's true The Reincarnation part

793
00:29:25,190 --> 00:29:24,000
I think is true but the whole soul trap

794
00:29:28,010 --> 00:29:25,200
I don't know

795
00:29:29,630 --> 00:29:28,020
um it makes sense but if you if if you

796
00:29:31,850 --> 00:29:29,640
struggle with UFOs and you're not into

797
00:29:33,289 --> 00:29:31,860
any of the Woo you're gonna think of

798
00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:33,299
what I'm talking about right now is

799
00:29:38,510 --> 00:29:36,720
ridiculous you can't even if he can't

800
00:29:40,330 --> 00:29:38,520
even handle a sports model for like

801
00:29:42,669 --> 00:29:40,340
saucer just

802
00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:42,679
just forget it

803
00:29:48,169 --> 00:29:44,640
do you think there's a connection

804
00:29:50,990 --> 00:29:48,179
between like uh near-death experiences

805
00:29:53,870 --> 00:29:51,000
and you know some UFO encounters because

806
00:29:56,149 --> 00:29:53,880
something yeah reporting things are

807
00:29:57,590 --> 00:29:56,159
pretty similar like what you know

808
00:30:00,350 --> 00:29:57,600
Euphoria and stuff like that are

809
00:30:03,110 --> 00:30:00,360
reported yeah so people who who talk

810
00:30:04,549 --> 00:30:03,120
about The Reincarnation and near-death

811
00:30:06,169 --> 00:30:04,559
stuff they think there's a connection to

812
00:30:07,549 --> 00:30:06,179
the phenomenon

813
00:30:09,889 --> 00:30:07,559
um and that could be what everything is

814
00:30:11,269 --> 00:30:09,899
about and they're the theory is they're

815
00:30:13,490 --> 00:30:11,279
using us

816
00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:13,500
they feed off of our emotions and that's

817
00:30:16,610 --> 00:30:14,880
where they get their energy and they use

818
00:30:18,889 --> 00:30:16,620
that energy for the simulation that's

819
00:30:21,710 --> 00:30:18,899
one Theory and people are like we give

820
00:30:22,970 --> 00:30:21,720
off energy of like a lot of people have

821
00:30:24,529 --> 00:30:22,980
talked about that

822
00:30:25,850 --> 00:30:24,539
um who knows what we give off in the

823
00:30:28,370 --> 00:30:25,860
non-physical

824
00:30:30,529 --> 00:30:28,380
um right in that book

825
00:30:33,110 --> 00:30:30,539
chains of the chains of the sea which

826
00:30:34,730 --> 00:30:33,120
Lou recommends there's this talk there's

827
00:30:35,570 --> 00:30:34,740
different beings in there that feed off

828
00:30:38,930 --> 00:30:35,580
of

829
00:30:40,430 --> 00:30:38,940
different things from us from cattle

830
00:30:41,630 --> 00:30:40,440
stuff you don't realize I think one of

831
00:30:42,889 --> 00:30:41,640
them was like you don't even they don't

832
00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:42,899
even you don't realize you're even

833
00:30:47,389 --> 00:30:45,600
missing it but they're taking it um

834
00:30:49,010 --> 00:30:47,399
maybe that's just parasitical you know

835
00:30:51,950 --> 00:30:49,020
and I had somebody tell me privately

836
00:30:55,850 --> 00:30:51,960
that part of the uh part of the

837
00:30:57,889 --> 00:30:55,860
phenomenon is parasitical in nature

838
00:30:59,210 --> 00:30:57,899
um some people think it's all parasites

839
00:31:02,029 --> 00:30:59,220
that we're dealing with and they're just

840
00:31:04,430 --> 00:31:02,039
you know that's why or life on Earth is

841
00:31:06,289 --> 00:31:04,440
so chaotic because they're somehow

842
00:31:07,850 --> 00:31:06,299
they're helping it along a little bit

843
00:31:11,169 --> 00:31:07,860
because they feed off of that negative

844
00:31:13,610 --> 00:31:11,179
emotion that's really conspiratory

845
00:31:15,230 --> 00:31:13,620
conspiratorial I know that it's one of

846
00:31:17,570 --> 00:31:15,240
the I first encountered that in the book

847
00:31:19,610 --> 00:31:17,580
gods of Eden

848
00:31:22,730 --> 00:31:19,620
um it wasn't exactly like that but he

849
00:31:25,070 --> 00:31:22,740
would suggest suggesting it was um

850
00:31:26,029 --> 00:31:25,080
who wrote gods of Eden have you ever

851
00:31:30,950 --> 00:31:26,039
read that

852
00:31:32,269 --> 00:31:30,960
no um I can look it up great William I

853
00:31:35,930 --> 00:31:32,279
can't think of his name

854
00:31:37,370 --> 00:31:35,940
etner Bramley Bramley is who wrote it I

855
00:31:38,810 --> 00:31:37,380
think it was William Bramley he might be

856
00:31:40,250 --> 00:31:38,820
wrong in the first name but it's it's

857
00:31:42,289 --> 00:31:40,260
like the first book I read and I'm like

858
00:31:44,090 --> 00:31:42,299
oh this is interesting he's like he was

859
00:31:46,250 --> 00:31:44,100
saying yeah whatever these

860
00:31:48,230 --> 00:31:46,260
extraterrestrials are are making life on

861
00:31:49,610 --> 00:31:48,240
this planet the way it is because they I

862
00:31:50,990 --> 00:31:49,620
don't know what his theory was and then

863
00:31:53,510 --> 00:31:51,000
he talked about I think he was the first

864
00:31:56,269 --> 00:31:53,520
one I ever heard or read where he said

865
00:31:59,570 --> 00:31:56,279
when you die don't go don't go towards

866
00:32:00,889 --> 00:31:59,580
the light being it's a it's some sort of

867
00:32:03,289 --> 00:32:00,899
trick and I've read that other places

868
00:32:04,789 --> 00:32:03,299
and then I and then if you read the if

869
00:32:07,010 --> 00:32:04,799
you listen to The Reincarnation soul

870
00:32:09,049 --> 00:32:07,020
trap they talk about that it's like you

871
00:32:11,750 --> 00:32:09,059
don't need help in the afterlife Sean if

872
00:32:13,310 --> 00:32:11,760
you die you don't need directions you

873
00:32:14,930 --> 00:32:13,320
don't need guidance from your loved ones

874
00:32:16,370 --> 00:32:14,940
you say hey because people are like

875
00:32:17,930 --> 00:32:16,380
they're not really your loved ones it's

876
00:32:19,730 --> 00:32:17,940
just the phenomenon these beings are

877
00:32:21,370 --> 00:32:19,740
pretending because they want to trick

878
00:32:26,570 --> 00:32:21,380
you

879
00:32:28,450 --> 00:32:26,580
need help I don't need directions in the

880
00:32:31,070 --> 00:32:28,460
afterlife I'm good

881
00:32:33,409 --> 00:32:31,080
yeah it'd probably be a dream where I'm

882
00:32:35,389 --> 00:32:33,419
like in the car with my wife and you

883
00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:35,399
know we don't have our cell phones or

884
00:32:39,350 --> 00:32:36,960
Google Maps and

885
00:32:40,510 --> 00:32:39,360
we have to stop at a gas station and ask

886
00:32:45,049 --> 00:32:40,520
for directions

887
00:32:46,730 --> 00:32:45,059
you guys like yeah come in no see that

888
00:32:48,950 --> 00:32:46,740
white light over there just jump into

889
00:32:51,409 --> 00:32:48,960
that white light you'll be fine

890
00:32:54,350 --> 00:32:51,419
there's something you know I've had such

891
00:32:57,049 --> 00:32:54,360
weird dreams where you know there's

892
00:32:59,990 --> 00:32:57,059
you're in one part of like a building

893
00:33:01,370 --> 00:33:00,000
and and you know stuff's happening that

894
00:33:03,889 --> 00:33:01,380
doesn't make sense and then all of a

895
00:33:06,710 --> 00:33:03,899
sudden you leave that building and then

896
00:33:08,710 --> 00:33:06,720
the dream's over so sometimes you know I

897
00:33:11,690 --> 00:33:08,720
wonder if there is some weird kind of

898
00:33:13,970 --> 00:33:11,700
dimensional places that we go when we

899
00:33:17,149 --> 00:33:13,980
die and when we sleep and if you know

900
00:33:18,889 --> 00:33:17,159
those are the same yeah Robert Monroe I

901
00:33:20,450 --> 00:33:18,899
forget which book of his on Out of Body

902
00:33:22,850 --> 00:33:20,460
Experience is talked about basically

903
00:33:25,370 --> 00:33:22,860
yeah during his out-of-body experiences

904
00:33:27,049 --> 00:33:25,380
he was experiencing another parallel

905
00:33:28,970 --> 00:33:27,059
life of his

906
00:33:31,549 --> 00:33:28,980
um I don't even remember my dreams which

907
00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:31,559
really it's been a while I remember I

908
00:33:34,970 --> 00:33:33,360
need to start making an effort to write

909
00:33:36,350 --> 00:33:34,980
them down because that will help you

910
00:33:37,970 --> 00:33:36,360
remember

911
00:33:39,769 --> 00:33:37,980
um yeah it could be you know parallel

912
00:33:41,389 --> 00:33:39,779
lives and when we're sleeping we're

913
00:33:43,190 --> 00:33:41,399
experiencing some of those other Lives

914
00:33:45,529 --> 00:33:43,200
who the heck knows

915
00:33:47,509 --> 00:33:45,539
um I don't know how the general Public's

916
00:33:49,009 --> 00:33:47,519
gonna handle any of this like when I

917
00:33:51,289 --> 00:33:49,019
meet somebody new to the topic I don't

918
00:33:52,909 --> 00:33:51,299
jump into The Reincarnation trap Theory

919
00:33:57,970 --> 00:33:52,919
obviously

920
00:34:05,570 --> 00:34:02,269
yeah yeah I like UFOs and

921
00:34:08,869 --> 00:34:05,580
I just try to avoid the links when I die

922
00:34:10,430 --> 00:34:08,879
and all right right right yeah you know

923
00:34:12,050 --> 00:34:10,440
you know you know the ones who deceive

924
00:34:15,290 --> 00:34:12,060
us you know they're connected to the

925
00:34:17,450 --> 00:34:15,300
UFOs possibly the reptilians and the and

926
00:34:20,510 --> 00:34:17,460
the soul trap and the in the simulation

927
00:34:22,790 --> 00:34:20,520
sucking energy off of our astral bodies

928
00:34:25,930 --> 00:34:22,800
yeah I don't talk about that and when

929
00:34:28,550 --> 00:34:25,940
did Las Vegas uh legalize marijuana

930
00:34:30,770 --> 00:34:28,560
exactly yeah

931
00:34:33,770 --> 00:34:30,780
I got married in Vegas actually oh

932
00:34:36,530 --> 00:34:33,780
really yeah yeah uh my wife and I

933
00:34:38,210 --> 00:34:36,540
decided to have we didn't want to put

934
00:34:40,790 --> 00:34:38,220
together like one of those big crazy

935
00:34:42,710 --> 00:34:40,800
weddings where you just invite everyone

936
00:34:45,770 --> 00:34:42,720
and they wind up complaining about the

937
00:34:47,510 --> 00:34:45,780
food or whatever so we yeah we're like

938
00:34:49,129 --> 00:34:47,520
let's just go to Vegas and let's do

939
00:34:50,570 --> 00:34:49,139
something cliche and we got married by

940
00:34:52,430 --> 00:34:50,580
Elvis at the sign

941
00:34:53,570 --> 00:34:52,440
and we got driven there in a pink

942
00:34:55,909 --> 00:34:53,580
Cadillac

943
00:34:58,130 --> 00:34:55,919
and we got great photos and actually 30

944
00:34:59,329 --> 00:34:58,140
people end up coming out but nice which

945
00:35:01,849 --> 00:34:59,339
place is it

946
00:35:04,190 --> 00:35:01,859
it was like a little chapel I think or

947
00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:04,200
something maybe it was called I don't

948
00:35:08,450 --> 00:35:06,240
know

949
00:35:11,569 --> 00:35:08,460
now my first reality show I shot here

950
00:35:13,430 --> 00:35:11,579
was a wedding shows um oh okay gotcha it

951
00:35:15,770 --> 00:35:13,440
was a wedding a wedding reality show but

952
00:35:21,109 --> 00:35:15,780
yeah the place is a dump but you know

953
00:35:24,050 --> 00:35:21,119
went fine and then we uh went to binions

954
00:35:25,490 --> 00:35:24,060
um and and had a big uh dinner there and

955
00:35:28,130 --> 00:35:25,500
rented out the rooftop there it was

956
00:35:29,810 --> 00:35:28,140
awesome oh nice yeah I've played poker

957
00:35:33,230 --> 00:35:29,820
and minions when I was gambling which I

958
00:35:34,970 --> 00:35:33,240
do not gamble anymore yeah good have you

959
00:35:38,510 --> 00:35:34,980
seen any

960
00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:38,520
uh flag sausages in Vegas or uh UFOs or

961
00:35:43,310 --> 00:35:41,040
have there been any recent reports there

962
00:35:45,170 --> 00:35:43,320
was a recently Port of lights over over

963
00:35:46,010 --> 00:35:45,180
the city um I saw it I don't know what

964
00:35:48,470 --> 00:35:46,020
it was

965
00:35:51,290 --> 00:35:48,480
um damn lights at night they're useless

966
00:35:54,170 --> 00:35:51,300
lights at night are so useless you know

967
00:35:56,329 --> 00:35:54,180
it's like even like what who's putting

968
00:35:58,130 --> 00:35:56,339
flares over City areas and not like

969
00:35:59,750 --> 00:35:58,140
telling anybody about it and it might be

970
00:36:02,329 --> 00:35:59,760
in the distance it might it just made me

971
00:36:04,430 --> 00:36:02,339
looking like it's over the city

972
00:36:06,349 --> 00:36:04,440
um so I don't know

973
00:36:09,050 --> 00:36:06,359
that's true I have you know I've never

974
00:36:11,329 --> 00:36:09,060
seen anything that looks clear as day

975
00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:11,339
something anomalous except for outside

976
00:36:16,670 --> 00:36:14,640
this door I had an orb sighting which

977
00:36:19,970 --> 00:36:16,680
was totally out of the blue it was Dusk

978
00:36:23,150 --> 00:36:19,980
and my dog was growling at this door and

979
00:36:25,370 --> 00:36:23,160
it was like 6 30 7 o'clock and I went

980
00:36:28,609 --> 00:36:25,380
out and looked and from right to left

981
00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:28,619
about it was like this big off-white

982
00:36:33,530 --> 00:36:30,720
close to the ground about 15 feet away

983
00:36:35,150 --> 00:36:33,540
from me just went really that fast it

984
00:36:37,430 --> 00:36:35,160
was so fast

985
00:36:38,510 --> 00:36:37,440
wow and if the dog hadn't growled I

986
00:36:40,490 --> 00:36:38,520
wouldn't have got up and I don't know

987
00:36:42,770 --> 00:36:40,500
what it was you know it wasn't a rabbit

988
00:36:44,569 --> 00:36:42,780
before it was off-white it was it was a

989
00:36:47,150 --> 00:36:44,579
ball it was round I don't know what it

990
00:36:55,329 --> 00:36:49,569
and who knows what it did to you

991
00:37:02,630 --> 00:36:58,849
who claim that stuff is around me but

992
00:37:04,490 --> 00:37:02,640
you know I can't prove it so yeah I have

993
00:37:05,930 --> 00:37:04,500
a great I have a great church story I

994
00:37:07,930 --> 00:37:05,940
don't know if I I've told this I don't

995
00:37:10,730 --> 00:37:07,940
think I told it to you but

996
00:37:12,109 --> 00:37:10,740
my first wife

997
00:37:13,790 --> 00:37:12,119
um

998
00:37:19,250 --> 00:37:13,800
I have one of those

999
00:37:23,210 --> 00:37:21,410
she came with me one day to church to

1000
00:37:26,089 --> 00:37:23,220
see one of my friends who was singing in

1001
00:37:26,930 --> 00:37:26,099
this it was a Baptist Church

1002
00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:26,940
um

1003
00:37:29,810 --> 00:37:28,560
you really didn't want to go she's all

1004
00:37:31,069 --> 00:37:29,820
right I'll go I don't feel well I'm

1005
00:37:33,050 --> 00:37:31,079
gonna go

1006
00:37:34,970 --> 00:37:33,060
so we're sitting there and then

1007
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:34,980
during this singing and then and then

1008
00:37:39,230 --> 00:37:36,960
the pastor so it's about the pastor

1009
00:37:42,470 --> 00:37:39,240
starts going it starts going into

1010
00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:42,480
uh tithing and donating money I look

1011
00:37:46,490 --> 00:37:44,640
over at her and she's she's got tears

1012
00:37:48,050 --> 00:37:46,500
rolling down her eyes

1013
00:37:49,910 --> 00:37:48,060
um to make a long story short after it

1014
00:37:51,890 --> 00:37:49,920
was over I'm like what happened what's

1015
00:37:53,630 --> 00:37:51,900
going on she's like

1016
00:37:55,430 --> 00:37:53,640
when the pastor was up there he was

1017
00:37:59,329 --> 00:37:55,440
asking for money I looked up and there

1018
00:38:01,370 --> 00:37:59,339
was this really nasty looking being that

1019
00:38:03,829 --> 00:38:01,380
was there and and he was telepathically

1020
00:38:05,089 --> 00:38:03,839
communicating with me saying I know you

1021
00:38:07,130 --> 00:38:05,099
can see me and there's absolutely

1022
00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:07,140
nothing you can do about it and it

1023
00:38:10,910 --> 00:38:09,599
started gliding towards her

1024
00:38:12,950 --> 00:38:10,920
um and then it disappeared into the

1025
00:38:15,530 --> 00:38:12,960
pastor and then he started giving his

1026
00:38:17,569 --> 00:38:15,540
Spiel really strong for money

1027
00:38:19,550 --> 00:38:17,579
so that's the story you know can't prove

1028
00:38:22,250 --> 00:38:19,560
it she had other experiences where there

1029
00:38:24,230 --> 00:38:22,260
was some feedback that suggested she was

1030
00:38:26,089 --> 00:38:24,240
really seeing something that particular

1031
00:38:28,130 --> 00:38:26,099
one no feedback and she would not tell

1032
00:38:29,690 --> 00:38:28,140
anybody that story unless she was really

1033
00:38:31,730 --> 00:38:29,700
comfortable with them because they're

1034
00:38:33,050 --> 00:38:31,740
going to say you're crazy you're seeing

1035
00:38:35,690 --> 00:38:33,060
things

1036
00:38:37,329 --> 00:38:35,700
um you know so well I don't know what to

1037
00:38:40,450 --> 00:38:37,339
make of that

1038
00:38:43,250 --> 00:38:40,460
the church sucks

1039
00:38:45,109 --> 00:38:43,260
you know there's a lot of negative stuff

1040
00:38:47,569 --> 00:38:45,119
because people go to church when they're

1041
00:38:49,310 --> 00:38:47,579
struggling in their lives um yeah I

1042
00:38:52,010 --> 00:38:49,320
don't know good point good point that's

1043
00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:52,020
true yeah oh yeah that's a that's an

1044
00:38:56,690 --> 00:38:54,480
intense Story and there's so many

1045
00:38:59,030 --> 00:38:56,700
different kinds of stories

1046
00:39:01,550 --> 00:38:59,040
in in paranormal stuff that lines up

1047
00:39:03,890 --> 00:39:01,560
with UFO sightings all the time like I

1048
00:39:06,470 --> 00:39:03,900
was just I love looking in the old

1049
00:39:08,990 --> 00:39:06,480
newspaper accounts these days because

1050
00:39:11,030 --> 00:39:09,000
you know I go looking for one thing and

1051
00:39:14,569 --> 00:39:11,040
I wind up looking at something like

1052
00:39:16,130 --> 00:39:14,579
completely bizarre like about uh I just

1053
00:39:18,470 --> 00:39:16,140
recently looked at this newspaper

1054
00:39:21,230 --> 00:39:18,480
article from the 50s about this lady who

1055
00:39:23,210 --> 00:39:21,240
thought she saw uh Superman over Barn

1056
00:39:26,870 --> 00:39:23,220
except it wasn't Superman it was just a

1057
00:39:28,970 --> 00:39:26,880
guy with wings much like uh Mothman and

1058
00:39:32,690 --> 00:39:28,980
and how kill describes that except this

1059
00:39:34,310 --> 00:39:32,700
was in like 1952. this is you know it's

1060
00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:34,320
just crazy all the different stuff that

1061
00:39:39,170 --> 00:39:36,960
exists and and now we have Rocketman

1062
00:39:41,270 --> 00:39:39,180
flying in between Airlines I know it's

1063
00:39:42,589 --> 00:39:41,280
really weird remember the witch I think

1064
00:39:43,970 --> 00:39:42,599
it was South America people were seeing

1065
00:39:46,190 --> 00:39:43,980
like a witch on a broom you ever see

1066
00:39:48,050 --> 00:39:46,200
that video I have it I'll look at it

1067
00:39:49,910 --> 00:39:48,060
really weird it looks like a witch on a

1068
00:39:51,410 --> 00:39:49,920
broom maybe it's just some dummy on I

1069
00:39:53,089 --> 00:39:51,420
don't know what it is it's but that's

1070
00:39:56,329 --> 00:39:53,099
what it looks like it's like what the

1071
00:39:58,190 --> 00:39:56,339
heck yeah there's a there's weird stuff

1072
00:40:00,109 --> 00:39:58,200
like that that doesn't exist but you

1073
00:40:02,450 --> 00:40:00,119
know like what I re what I've come to

1074
00:40:05,210 --> 00:40:02,460
realize that is if it's too it's like

1075
00:40:06,410 --> 00:40:05,220
too weird to be true almost like even if

1076
00:40:07,970 --> 00:40:06,420
it is real

1077
00:40:10,250 --> 00:40:07,980
people would never believe it because

1078
00:40:12,109 --> 00:40:10,260
it's too weird to be true the absurdity

1079
00:40:13,430 --> 00:40:12,119
nature of the phenomenon I know it's

1080
00:40:15,890 --> 00:40:13,440
ridiculous

1081
00:40:19,370 --> 00:40:15,900
um stuff that's going on next week is

1082
00:40:21,589 --> 00:40:19,380
Jay Stratton is going to be on secret of

1083
00:40:23,390 --> 00:40:21,599
Skinwalker Ranch oh which I'm looking

1084
00:40:24,829 --> 00:40:23,400
forward to that because

1085
00:40:28,670 --> 00:40:24,839
um basically he's the guy who ran the

1086
00:40:30,950 --> 00:40:28,680
UAP task force for people who don't know

1087
00:40:34,069 --> 00:40:30,960
sharp guy sharp guy I met him when I

1088
00:40:36,290 --> 00:40:34,079
went to Alabama uh last November I met

1089
00:40:37,849 --> 00:40:36,300
with Eric Davis I met with Jay Stratton

1090
00:40:40,550 --> 00:40:37,859
and I hung out with Michael Vai who I

1091
00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:40,560
interviewed on my show on my channel

1092
00:40:44,630 --> 00:40:43,200
yeah it was it was it was a good trip I

1093
00:40:46,609 --> 00:40:44,640
was actually gonna go down to Florida

1094
00:40:48,530 --> 00:40:46,619
and see will Miller who was part of the

1095
00:40:51,710 --> 00:40:48,540
Wilson Davis documents his letter is in

1096
00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:51,720
there but I didn't he was busy with

1097
00:40:55,910 --> 00:40:53,520
stuff I couldn't see him um but it was a

1098
00:40:59,230 --> 00:40:55,920
good trip and Stratton

1099
00:41:01,970 --> 00:40:59,240
I I think most people realize he is

1100
00:41:03,589 --> 00:41:01,980
Axelrod in skin workers at the Pentagon

1101
00:41:05,690 --> 00:41:03,599
and I think they're gonna cover his

1102
00:41:07,790 --> 00:41:05,700
background with ASAP in the next episode

1103
00:41:10,849 --> 00:41:07,800
I'm not sure but I'm looking forward to

1104
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:10,859
that next week yeah that'll be great do

1105
00:41:14,270 --> 00:41:12,480
you know anything about that book that

1106
00:41:16,310 --> 00:41:14,280
was remember there was a blurb about a

1107
00:41:18,829 --> 00:41:16,320
book about somebody who and then Lou

1108
00:41:21,650 --> 00:41:18,839
retweeted it right and I forget the

1109
00:41:24,530 --> 00:41:21,660
guy's name but yes he doesn't remember

1110
00:41:26,390 --> 00:41:24,540
it and no I haven't heard anything I

1111
00:41:29,450 --> 00:41:26,400
mean people's trying to speculate who

1112
00:41:30,650 --> 00:41:29,460
that person is I don't know who it is

1113
00:41:35,510 --> 00:41:30,660
um I don't know if that's his real name

1114
00:41:39,290 --> 00:41:37,550
yeah yeah I forget what Lou said he said

1115
00:41:41,569 --> 00:41:39,300
um be prepared I forget what he said but

1116
00:41:44,569 --> 00:41:41,579
it's like he's like I he said it's

1117
00:41:48,109 --> 00:41:46,490
I forget exactly what he said but yeah

1118
00:41:50,510 --> 00:41:48,119
that's I don't know when that's supposed

1119
00:41:52,010 --> 00:41:50,520
to be coming out but that Lou book Lou's

1120
00:41:54,290 --> 00:41:52,020
book is supposed to be coming out by the

1121
00:41:56,329 --> 00:41:54,300
end of the year that should be good I

1122
00:41:58,370 --> 00:41:56,339
mean I would love to get a hold of that

1123
00:42:00,190 --> 00:41:58,380
beforehand just to just prepare I would

1124
00:42:02,990 --> 00:42:00,200
love to do it

1125
00:42:05,690 --> 00:42:03,000
from front to back on there let's go on

1126
00:42:08,030 --> 00:42:05,700
YouTube for like 72 hours and just read

1127
00:42:09,950 --> 00:42:08,040
fall asleep as I'm reading you just

1128
00:42:11,329 --> 00:42:09,960
gotta get like a a group of like eight

1129
00:42:14,150 --> 00:42:11,339
people or something and we'll take

1130
00:42:16,190 --> 00:42:14,160
sleeping breaks and there you go

1131
00:42:17,930 --> 00:42:16,200
do you remember you know I want to say

1132
00:42:20,690 --> 00:42:17,940
something because people

1133
00:42:22,010 --> 00:42:20,700
compare

1134
00:42:25,069 --> 00:42:22,020
um

1135
00:42:26,810 --> 00:42:25,079
who was it somebody said it was Robert

1136
00:42:28,849 --> 00:42:26,820
Salas was being interviewed so Robert

1137
00:42:31,730 --> 00:42:28,859
sells was there when

1138
00:42:33,589 --> 00:42:31,740
the nuclear missiles went offline and

1139
00:42:35,569 --> 00:42:33,599
he's given interviews and he said I

1140
00:42:37,970 --> 00:42:35,579
think we have craft and bodies and I'm

1141
00:42:39,230 --> 00:42:37,980
like and I'm like he said the evidence

1142
00:42:41,450 --> 00:42:39,240
is there and I'm like there really isn't

1143
00:42:43,069 --> 00:42:41,460
evidence it's there's stories but there

1144
00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:43,079
isn't evidence and they go and somebody

1145
00:42:46,430 --> 00:42:44,880
jumped in the app into the evidence for

1146
00:42:48,950 --> 00:42:46,440
UFOs and they said we have all these

1147
00:42:50,990 --> 00:42:48,960
Witnesses I'm like I agree we have tens

1148
00:42:52,849 --> 00:42:51,000
and thousands of witnesses but we don't

1149
00:42:53,630 --> 00:42:52,859
have tens and thousands of witnesses who

1150
00:42:57,050 --> 00:42:53,640
said

1151
00:43:00,170 --> 00:42:57,060
I walked into a vault and I saw a craft

1152
00:43:02,450 --> 00:43:00,180
with people working on it if we had that

1153
00:43:03,710 --> 00:43:02,460
yeah I would say that's impressive we

1154
00:43:06,710 --> 00:43:03,720
don't have that you know we don't have

1155
00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:06,720
one we have stories you know that people

1156
00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:08,640
supposedly went into the crash retrieval

1157
00:43:13,730 --> 00:43:10,560
program put their hand on it General

1158
00:43:16,309 --> 00:43:13,740
Jack Sheehan supposedly

1159
00:43:17,750 --> 00:43:16,319
um and then we have Wilson being denied

1160
00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:17,760
access and

1161
00:43:24,170 --> 00:43:20,400
but we don't hear that those stories go

1162
00:43:26,569 --> 00:43:24,180
back to 1953 I found it and really in a

1163
00:43:28,370 --> 00:43:26,579
blue book document yeah

1164
00:43:31,250 --> 00:43:28,380
um where it

1165
00:43:33,050 --> 00:43:31,260
I forgot his rank but there's some

1166
00:43:35,510 --> 00:43:33,060
Soldier guy or whatever met with this

1167
00:43:38,270 --> 00:43:35,520
guy at a bar it's dude it's like the

1168
00:43:41,450 --> 00:43:38,280
Wilson documents of 1953 almost not

1169
00:43:43,309 --> 00:43:41,460
quite yes show me I missed it yeah and

1170
00:43:46,130 --> 00:43:43,319
he meets this guy in a bar in this kind

1171
00:43:50,270 --> 00:43:46,140
of bar like seems trustworthy and and

1172
00:43:54,050 --> 00:43:50,280
professional and and this guy told them

1173
00:43:56,390 --> 00:43:54,060
about craft at Wright-Patterson and they

1174
00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:56,400
were in Ohio at this meeting craft at

1175
00:44:01,370 --> 00:43:58,640
Ray Patterson embodies

1176
00:44:03,230 --> 00:44:01,380
and he even followed this guy the

1177
00:44:05,210 --> 00:44:03,240
military guy followed this guy from a

1178
00:44:07,910 --> 00:44:05,220
bar to somewhere else found him in the

1179
00:44:10,130 --> 00:44:07,920
bathroom and then he like lost them

1180
00:44:11,750 --> 00:44:10,140
and the the interesting thing is yeah

1181
00:44:14,750 --> 00:44:11,760
you could just throw this away and go uh

1182
00:44:17,270 --> 00:44:14,760
whatever but why did he report it to his

1183
00:44:18,589 --> 00:44:17,280
authorities he must have thought that

1184
00:44:21,349 --> 00:44:18,599
there is some

1185
00:44:22,849 --> 00:44:21,359
you know some validity to it or you must

1186
00:44:25,190 --> 00:44:22,859
have thought it was important to some

1187
00:44:27,109 --> 00:44:25,200
extent so it's it's interesting to see

1188
00:44:29,089 --> 00:44:27,119
that those you know things like that

1189
00:44:30,890 --> 00:44:29,099
have been happening for a while and you

1190
00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:30,900
know some well there's smoke there's

1191
00:44:35,450 --> 00:44:32,400
fire there's got to be something

1192
00:44:38,390 --> 00:44:35,460
whatever it is you know even if it's a

1193
00:44:40,750 --> 00:44:38,400
giant special Access program Psy up

1194
00:44:43,790 --> 00:44:40,760
that's lasted 80 years right

1195
00:44:45,770 --> 00:44:43,800
it's got to be something I said that to

1196
00:44:46,609 --> 00:44:45,780
somebody the other day

1197
00:44:48,829 --> 00:44:46,619
um

1198
00:44:50,450 --> 00:44:48,839
I wouldn't say they're a source but

1199
00:44:52,849 --> 00:44:50,460
somebody kind of in the know and I said

1200
00:44:54,530 --> 00:44:52,859
there's a lot of smoke right now and

1201
00:44:56,569 --> 00:44:54,540
this person said and I said I'll believe

1202
00:44:58,370 --> 00:44:56,579
it when I see it of course and this

1203
00:45:00,470 --> 00:44:58,380
person said yeah there's a lot of smoke

1204
00:45:01,910 --> 00:45:00,480
he goes but there's also a lot of smoke

1205
00:45:04,370 --> 00:45:01,920
and mirrors

1206
00:45:06,050 --> 00:45:04,380
didn't explain what they meant by that

1207
00:45:10,130 --> 00:45:06,060
um oh thanks yeah but we were talking

1208
00:45:12,890 --> 00:45:10,140
crash retrievals and so yeah I mean

1209
00:45:14,870 --> 00:45:12,900
I really want to see it as much as we

1210
00:45:17,390 --> 00:45:14,880
hear the stories and whistleblowers I

1211
00:45:19,730 --> 00:45:17,400
want to see it or at the very first very

1212
00:45:21,650 --> 00:45:19,740
first step is hearing from somebody who

1213
00:45:23,089 --> 00:45:21,660
says they worked in the program or

1214
00:45:25,430 --> 00:45:23,099
looked in the door that's something a

1215
00:45:27,349 --> 00:45:25,440
lot of people missed Jeremy Corbell was

1216
00:45:29,210 --> 00:45:27,359
detailing different whistleblowers he is

1217
00:45:30,950 --> 00:45:29,220
he him and George Knapp have spoken to

1218
00:45:33,109 --> 00:45:30,960
and he's like some of them have just

1219
00:45:34,970 --> 00:45:33,119
glanced in the door and looked other

1220
00:45:36,230 --> 00:45:34,980
people I don't know how far they've

1221
00:45:38,390 --> 00:45:36,240
gotten into the program I need to listen

1222
00:45:41,270 --> 00:45:38,400
to his interview again

1223
00:45:43,010 --> 00:45:41,280
um but I'm not sure what it's gonna take

1224
00:45:44,930 --> 00:45:43,020
aside from

1225
00:45:46,849 --> 00:45:44,940
and I always make this joke I'm

1226
00:45:48,470 --> 00:45:46,859
repetitive but aside from them Wheeling

1227
00:45:50,750 --> 00:45:48,480
the craft down the aisle of

1228
00:45:53,150 --> 00:45:50,760
congressional of a congressional hearing

1229
00:45:55,490 --> 00:45:53,160
like the door is open it just comes in

1230
00:45:57,470 --> 00:45:55,500
and they have another container of

1231
00:45:59,750 --> 00:45:57,480
bodies with Grays in it besides that

1232
00:46:01,550 --> 00:45:59,760
happening I don't know how much we need

1233
00:46:03,530 --> 00:46:01,560
what if they go what if these people go

1234
00:46:05,930 --> 00:46:03,540
on 60 Minutes four people who say yeah

1235
00:46:08,510 --> 00:46:05,940
we worked in the program we touched the

1236
00:46:10,490 --> 00:46:08,520
craft we're pretty sure it's not made by

1237
00:46:12,230 --> 00:46:10,500
human hands is that going to be enough

1238
00:46:14,510 --> 00:46:12,240
for the people for people to accept that

1239
00:46:16,730 --> 00:46:14,520
they're here something is here

1240
00:46:19,670 --> 00:46:16,740
man you would think

1241
00:46:22,630 --> 00:46:19,680
I don't know though I think

1242
00:46:26,210 --> 00:46:22,640
I mean if that happened

1243
00:46:29,030 --> 00:46:26,220
you would probably get a repeat of 2017

1244
00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:29,040
on like steroids I think so too

1245
00:46:32,569 --> 00:46:30,960
everybody's gonna be trying to

1246
00:46:34,550 --> 00:46:32,579
investigate if you're if you're a

1247
00:46:36,109 --> 00:46:34,560
reporter who's into you know

1248
00:46:37,309 --> 00:46:36,119
investigating the biggest story yeah

1249
00:46:38,990 --> 00:46:37,319
eventually the biggest story in the

1250
00:46:41,510 --> 00:46:39,000
history of mankind

1251
00:46:44,870 --> 00:46:41,520
because Bob Lazar was Bob Lazar like

1252
00:46:46,790 --> 00:46:44,880
that was a good a good story and you

1253
00:46:49,130 --> 00:46:46,800
know I think it made some Believers out

1254
00:46:51,589 --> 00:46:49,140
of a lot of people honestly if whether

1255
00:46:53,930 --> 00:46:51,599
they'd admit it or not but a lot of

1256
00:46:56,630 --> 00:46:53,940
people just don't believe it at all but

1257
00:46:59,690 --> 00:46:56,640
you know and which sucks being George

1258
00:47:01,430 --> 00:46:59,700
about this is is that he covers UFOs for

1259
00:47:03,410 --> 00:47:01,440
so long so if he covers the story it's

1260
00:47:06,109 --> 00:47:03,420
like well the UFO guys covering UFO

1261
00:47:07,130 --> 00:47:06,119
stuff right but if these guys are on 60

1262
00:47:09,109 --> 00:47:07,140
Minutes

1263
00:47:10,870 --> 00:47:09,119
you're like kind of forced to take it

1264
00:47:13,609 --> 00:47:10,880
serious almost like

1265
00:47:15,950 --> 00:47:13,619
yeah I really want non-ufo people

1266
00:47:18,170 --> 00:47:15,960
nothing against Leslie king or Ralph

1267
00:47:20,569 --> 00:47:18,180
Blumenthal or George Knapp I want

1268
00:47:23,270 --> 00:47:20,579
and other folks Ross Colta or Ross

1269
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:23,280
Coulter wasn't a UFO guy um either is

1270
00:47:27,650 --> 00:47:24,960
Tom Rogan

1271
00:47:29,930 --> 00:47:27,660
um but I want nationally nationally

1272
00:47:31,970 --> 00:47:29,940
known investigative reporters to really

1273
00:47:33,230 --> 00:47:31,980
dig into this that's what we need yeah

1274
00:47:35,870 --> 00:47:33,240
because it's always going to be the

1275
00:47:37,069 --> 00:47:35,880
criticism oh Leslie's a UFO reporter

1276
00:47:40,010 --> 00:47:37,079
it's like

1277
00:47:41,390 --> 00:47:40,020
listen if any the New York Times for you

1278
00:47:43,730 --> 00:47:41,400
to get an article in the New York Times

1279
00:47:47,630 --> 00:47:43,740
it has to go through a rigorous process

1280
00:47:49,430 --> 00:47:47,640
even though Senator Reid you know did

1281
00:47:51,170 --> 00:47:49,440
ask for a correction on one of his

1282
00:47:52,910 --> 00:47:51,180
quotes which I know

1283
00:47:54,530 --> 00:47:52,920
I don't think they agreed with but they

1284
00:47:56,930 --> 00:47:54,540
did it for him

1285
00:47:59,210 --> 00:47:56,940
um and they did get the ASAP part of the

1286
00:48:01,010 --> 00:47:59,220
story wrong in right in the New York

1287
00:48:03,290 --> 00:48:01,020
Times I don't know exactly what people

1288
00:48:05,569 --> 00:48:03,300
were telling them with Lou and uh Chris

1289
00:48:07,790 --> 00:48:05,579
Mellon told them but

1290
00:48:09,109 --> 00:48:07,800
um there's some sort of editing process

1291
00:48:10,550 --> 00:48:09,119
that goes in it's really tough I

1292
00:48:12,530 --> 00:48:10,560
remember George saying it's a really

1293
00:48:13,730 --> 00:48:12,540
tough lift when we were when we were

1294
00:48:15,650 --> 00:48:13,740
talking about the crash retrieval

1295
00:48:16,970 --> 00:48:15,660
program he's like whatever makes it into

1296
00:48:18,890 --> 00:48:16,980
the article because there was other

1297
00:48:21,470 --> 00:48:18,900
stuff I was hearing that was supposed to

1298
00:48:23,329 --> 00:48:21,480
be in that article that never made it

1299
00:48:25,190 --> 00:48:23,339
um okay

1300
00:48:26,930 --> 00:48:25,200
yeah I mean you can't just go to the New

1301
00:48:29,809 --> 00:48:26,940
York Times and say okay I got a story

1302
00:48:31,849 --> 00:48:29,819
about uh you know extraterrestrial I was

1303
00:48:32,710 --> 00:48:31,859
in the parts room I touched the craft so

1304
00:48:34,510 --> 00:48:32,720
cool

1305
00:48:38,270 --> 00:48:34,520
yeah

1306
00:48:39,490 --> 00:48:38,280
no we're not you know we're not doing

1307
00:48:42,109 --> 00:48:39,500
choir

1308
00:48:43,730 --> 00:48:42,119
yeah I would think if that of an article

1309
00:48:45,290 --> 00:48:43,740
like that made it into a you know

1310
00:48:47,150 --> 00:48:45,300
another crash retrieval article or

1311
00:48:49,550 --> 00:48:47,160
people working on a program

1312
00:48:51,670 --> 00:48:49,560
they will vet the heck out of that they

1313
00:48:54,050 --> 00:48:51,680
would have to I mean when people forget

1314
00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:54,060
Colleen Cooper

1315
00:48:58,370 --> 00:48:56,400
um helped with that too and she's not

1316
00:48:59,510 --> 00:48:58,380
she was a key part of that article I

1317
00:49:01,010 --> 00:48:59,520
wish she would stay it on I wish he

1318
00:49:03,349 --> 00:49:01,020
would have been on all of them

1319
00:49:05,089 --> 00:49:03,359
you know and she's not a UFO person well

1320
00:49:08,089 --> 00:49:05,099
at least no I don't think she would yeah

1321
00:49:09,950 --> 00:49:08,099
she's National Security or defense right

1322
00:49:12,349 --> 00:49:09,960
I remember talking about her trip on the

1323
00:49:14,150 --> 00:49:12,359
way home after meeting Lou saying

1324
00:49:15,650 --> 00:49:14,160
you know it just sounded all good that I

1325
00:49:17,510 --> 00:49:15,660
got in the subway and I'm like this

1326
00:49:19,609 --> 00:49:17,520
can't be true I mean she was questioning

1327
00:49:21,589 --> 00:49:19,619
everything like a normal person who's

1328
00:49:23,630 --> 00:49:21,599
not into this would do

1329
00:49:26,329 --> 00:49:23,640
um so it's great having people like her

1330
00:49:29,089 --> 00:49:26,339
yeah I think she I love listening to her

1331
00:49:31,130 --> 00:49:29,099
talk about it when she was on she was on

1332
00:49:33,349 --> 00:49:31,140
that UFO special on National Geographic

1333
00:49:35,030 --> 00:49:33,359
the one that was supposed to be on CNN

1334
00:49:37,490 --> 00:49:35,040
she was the highlight for me she talked

1335
00:49:39,230 --> 00:49:37,500
about inside the inside of how that came

1336
00:49:40,430 --> 00:49:39,240
about and how they were rushing they're

1337
00:49:42,109 --> 00:49:40,440
like somebody else is going to beat us

1338
00:49:44,510 --> 00:49:42,119
to the punch we need to publish it now

1339
00:49:45,829 --> 00:49:44,520
publish it publish it publish it and

1340
00:49:48,710 --> 00:49:45,839
they got it out and they beat Everybody

1341
00:49:51,410 --> 00:49:48,720
by a day I think yeah political or

1342
00:49:52,790 --> 00:49:51,420
something right yeah say again yeah I

1343
00:49:56,030 --> 00:49:52,800
think they'd be like political or

1344
00:49:58,130 --> 00:49:56,040
something right yeah yeah

1345
00:50:04,870 --> 00:49:58,140
and man and they didn't even show up in

1346
00:50:08,990 --> 00:50:07,069
I know people are frustrated right now

1347
00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:09,000
with how things how things are going

1348
00:50:13,250 --> 00:50:11,520
slow with Congress but it's like like

1349
00:50:15,589 --> 00:50:13,260
you said earlier they're talking about

1350
00:50:17,510 --> 00:50:15,599
it we're having hearings the problem is

1351
00:50:19,250 --> 00:50:17,520
and I I don't know if I think it might

1352
00:50:21,410 --> 00:50:19,260
have been George or Jeremy who mentioned

1353
00:50:23,089 --> 00:50:21,420
these guys who don't want it out are

1354
00:50:24,470 --> 00:50:23,099
trying to wait it out because they know

1355
00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:24,480
there's going to be an election coming

1356
00:50:28,609 --> 00:50:26,640
up and if if Ruby doesn't Ruby doesn't

1357
00:50:30,829 --> 00:50:28,619
get elected or gillibrand doesn't get

1358
00:50:34,010 --> 00:50:30,839
elected or Warner doesn't get elected or

1359
00:50:35,569 --> 00:50:34,020
or Gallagher who knows if the next

1360
00:50:37,609 --> 00:50:35,579
person that comes into the into that

1361
00:50:40,069 --> 00:50:37,619
office is going to back up another NDA

1362
00:50:42,410 --> 00:50:40,079
you don't know I mean or at least push

1363
00:50:44,510 --> 00:50:42,420
it I mean everybody voted for it but

1364
00:50:46,670 --> 00:50:44,520
will it still get pushed so that's the I

1365
00:50:48,470 --> 00:50:46,680
think that's their their game that's

1366
00:50:50,930 --> 00:50:48,480
people who don't want it out

1367
00:50:53,510 --> 00:50:50,940
that's key what you just said is that

1368
00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:53,520
most people voted for it you know so

1369
00:50:56,870 --> 00:50:55,440
first I think that does show like if you

1370
00:50:59,089 --> 00:50:56,880
have a lot of Replacements or whatever

1371
00:51:00,530 --> 00:50:59,099
it seems like the majority may still go

1372
00:51:03,230 --> 00:51:00,540
for something like that but also like

1373
00:51:04,569 --> 00:51:03,240
why did most people vote for it well

1374
00:51:06,829 --> 00:51:04,579
because evidence

1375
00:51:08,829 --> 00:51:06,839
it wasn't a deal breaker for the whole

1376
00:51:11,870 --> 00:51:08,839
NDA

1377
00:51:14,210 --> 00:51:11,880
it's in there like okay fine

1378
00:51:15,530 --> 00:51:14,220
um the problem is I don't know if if you

1379
00:51:17,270 --> 00:51:15,540
don't have those people leading the way

1380
00:51:18,890 --> 00:51:17,280
if it'll even make it in there in the

1381
00:51:19,910 --> 00:51:18,900
first place you know right right right

1382
00:51:22,190 --> 00:51:19,920
right

1383
00:51:24,530 --> 00:51:22,200
um yeah it depends what evidence they've

1384
00:51:26,750 --> 00:51:24,540
seen if any that was convincing enough

1385
00:51:30,410 --> 00:51:26,760
to you know haven't put in this effort

1386
00:51:32,150 --> 00:51:30,420
as far as I know Congress nobody

1387
00:51:34,730 --> 00:51:32,160
somebody else would do that too you know

1388
00:51:36,829 --> 00:51:34,740
as far as I know there is no

1389
00:51:39,049 --> 00:51:36,839
congressional oversight in the alleged

1390
00:51:41,390 --> 00:51:39,059
crash retrieval program there is

1391
00:51:42,770 --> 00:51:41,400
oversight certain people in the dod I

1392
00:51:45,790 --> 00:51:42,780
don't know how many but they know about

1393
00:51:48,470 --> 00:51:45,800
it but as far as as far as I know but

1394
00:51:50,210 --> 00:51:48,480
Congress no nobody's been allowed in the

1395
00:51:52,849 --> 00:51:50,220
door nobody has gotten access as far as

1396
00:51:54,410 --> 00:51:52,859
I know have any news I said this on

1397
00:51:56,569 --> 00:51:54,420
Twitter I think possibly some new

1398
00:51:58,549 --> 00:51:56,579
scientists have been reading I would

1399
00:51:59,870 --> 00:51:58,559
love to think Eric Davis was right in he

1400
00:52:01,430 --> 00:51:59,880
would deserve it

1401
00:52:03,049 --> 00:52:01,440
um but I don't know that to be a fact

1402
00:52:04,790 --> 00:52:03,059
and he wouldn't tell me if he if he was

1403
00:52:06,890 --> 00:52:04,800
you know he wouldn't say by the way I

1404
00:52:09,230 --> 00:52:06,900
got right in there the first thing you

1405
00:52:12,490 --> 00:52:09,240
do is just tell your buddies hey guess

1406
00:52:15,049 --> 00:52:12,500
what guys crack a beer I made it

1407
00:52:17,630 --> 00:52:15,059
tonight I'm in the crash retrieval

1408
00:52:21,170 --> 00:52:17,640
program I'm gonna tell you all about it

1409
00:52:22,970 --> 00:52:21,180
well he can't even do media so no Gary

1410
00:52:26,329 --> 00:52:22,980
Nolan almost got in I guess that's what

1411
00:52:28,370 --> 00:52:26,339
he said he was touched and I almost was

1412
00:52:30,109 --> 00:52:28,380
able to work on an object and at the

1413
00:52:32,270 --> 00:52:30,119
last minute they pulled some Shenanigans

1414
00:52:34,190 --> 00:52:32,280
and then Eric Weinstein says that's been

1415
00:52:36,049 --> 00:52:34,200
going on forever they did it with me Sam

1416
00:52:37,609 --> 00:52:36,059
Harris and then kit green talked about

1417
00:52:39,890 --> 00:52:37,619
he was supposed to be read in and then

1418
00:52:42,470 --> 00:52:39,900
it didn't happen so Eric Weinstein's

1419
00:52:44,990 --> 00:52:42,480
thinking it's some sort of psyop and

1420
00:52:46,609 --> 00:52:45,000
he's teasing these people well the way

1421
00:52:48,530 --> 00:52:46,619
Gary Nolan describes it seems different

1422
00:52:50,990 --> 00:52:48,540
than what Weinstein went through doesn't

1423
00:52:52,730 --> 00:52:51,000
it I Gary Nolan it seems like he was

1424
00:52:54,650 --> 00:52:52,740
like went through a process and almost

1425
00:52:56,569 --> 00:52:54,660
got approved and then didn't where

1426
00:52:58,010 --> 00:52:56,579
Weinstein seems like for all he knows he

1427
00:52:59,630 --> 00:52:58,020
could have got called from some weird

1428
00:53:02,030 --> 00:52:59,640
stranger kid who got his number and

1429
00:53:03,430 --> 00:53:02,040
pretended to be somebody well he yeah he

1430
00:53:05,990 --> 00:53:03,440
said he knows

1431
00:53:07,970 --> 00:53:06,000
he's just being respectful and not

1432
00:53:10,130 --> 00:53:07,980
naming it I wish he would name that I

1433
00:53:11,630 --> 00:53:10,140
want to know who told him that and why

1434
00:53:12,530 --> 00:53:11,640
it didn't happen

1435
00:53:15,349 --> 00:53:12,540
um

1436
00:53:20,510 --> 00:53:15,359
but yeah I mean kit greens for all we

1437
00:53:24,049 --> 00:53:22,250
I like to have a similar thing and no

1438
00:53:27,410 --> 00:53:24,059
and Kate green never got his access

1439
00:53:29,089 --> 00:53:27,420
either and he was frustrated

1440
00:53:30,410 --> 00:53:29,099
um did he ever get access later on I

1441
00:53:33,589 --> 00:53:30,420
don't know he wouldn't be able to tell

1442
00:53:34,730 --> 00:53:33,599
us you know right who are these freaking

1443
00:53:36,890 --> 00:53:34,740
people man

1444
00:53:38,690 --> 00:53:36,900
somebody just needs to put it out on the

1445
00:53:40,190 --> 00:53:38,700
internet just we're gonna need more

1446
00:53:42,710 --> 00:53:40,200
whistleblowers that just say screw it

1447
00:53:44,750 --> 00:53:42,720
I'm coming out you know um there's a

1448
00:53:47,510 --> 00:53:44,760
process if you're gonna do it do it now

1449
00:53:50,450 --> 00:53:47,520
I know I heard from somebody they said

1450
00:53:52,190 --> 00:53:50,460
that yeah there are people in these

1451
00:53:54,890 --> 00:53:52,200
programs that definitely want it out but

1452
00:53:56,809 --> 00:53:54,900
the people who have control are putting

1453
00:54:00,530 --> 00:53:56,819
their foot down saying no so I don't

1454
00:54:03,109 --> 00:54:00,540
know how it's it's in tooth Sean in 2000

1455
00:54:05,630 --> 00:54:03,119
I called into a public access show where

1456
00:54:08,150 --> 00:54:05,640
will Miller that's the first time I met

1457
00:54:10,309 --> 00:54:08,160
him met him quote unquote will Miller

1458
00:54:12,770 --> 00:54:10,319
was talking about UFOs and I called in

1459
00:54:14,329 --> 00:54:12,780
23 years ago and I said well if these

1460
00:54:16,130 --> 00:54:14,339
programs exist how are we going to get

1461
00:54:19,670 --> 00:54:16,140
access it's like how do we break that

1462
00:54:21,349 --> 00:54:19,680
wall 23 years ago wow 23 years ago now

1463
00:54:23,450 --> 00:54:21,359
we're like still not I mean this

1464
00:54:26,750 --> 00:54:23,460
progress progress but we haven't as far

1465
00:54:28,609 --> 00:54:26,760
as I know gotten in the door and his his

1466
00:54:31,250 --> 00:54:28,619
advice at the time was like

1467
00:54:33,650 --> 00:54:31,260
speak to your your State Attorney

1468
00:54:35,210 --> 00:54:33,660
General something like that which

1469
00:54:37,130 --> 00:54:35,220
yeah that's not good that's not going to

1470
00:54:39,589 --> 00:54:37,140
be enough I don't know and if what if we

1471
00:54:41,390 --> 00:54:39,599
do what if it gets into the courts what

1472
00:54:43,190 --> 00:54:41,400
if it gets in front of a court where the

1473
00:54:45,049 --> 00:54:43,200
government's like

1474
00:54:46,670 --> 00:54:45,059
certain Congressional members like we

1475
00:54:48,049 --> 00:54:46,680
need to get access to these programs or

1476
00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:48,059
not there's no oversight and then the

1477
00:54:53,089 --> 00:54:50,160
dod comes back and says National

1478
00:54:54,410 --> 00:54:53,099
Security and the judge okay because

1479
00:54:56,210 --> 00:54:54,420
that's what happened when people wanted

1480
00:54:58,910 --> 00:54:56,220
to sue Area 51 when they had health

1481
00:55:01,609 --> 00:54:58,920
issues during the Clinton administration

1482
00:55:03,470 --> 00:55:01,619
the judge ruled National Security sorry

1483
00:55:04,870 --> 00:55:03,480
that's what their argument was and I'm

1484
00:55:07,370 --> 00:55:04,880
going to go along with it

1485
00:55:09,290 --> 00:55:07,380
wow we'll never get if that happens

1486
00:55:11,329 --> 00:55:09,300
we'll never find we'll never get we'll

1487
00:55:13,309 --> 00:55:11,339
never get in the door at least you know

1488
00:55:14,930 --> 00:55:13,319
us in Congress will

1489
00:55:17,390 --> 00:55:14,940
you know one of these beings just gonna

1490
00:55:19,069 --> 00:55:17,400
like take charge and say like we're

1491
00:55:20,930 --> 00:55:19,079
gonna do our own thing and show

1492
00:55:22,210 --> 00:55:20,940
ourselves to everybody screw these

1493
00:55:24,710 --> 00:55:22,220
Gatekeepers

1494
00:55:26,210 --> 00:55:24,720
but but if if there's something negative

1495
00:55:28,190 --> 00:55:26,220
going on where they're just using us

1496
00:55:30,589 --> 00:55:28,200
maybe not really negative just matter of

1497
00:55:33,109 --> 00:55:30,599
fact hey we use we're using humans like

1498
00:55:34,730 --> 00:55:33,119
a soul Beach or something yeah something

1499
00:55:36,230 --> 00:55:34,740
whatever in whatever ways if we're

1500
00:55:38,390 --> 00:55:36,240
getting used why would why would they

1501
00:55:40,130 --> 00:55:38,400
want to break the secrecy because right

1502
00:55:42,230 --> 00:55:40,140
no they want to keep doing what benefit

1503
00:55:43,730 --> 00:55:42,240
all right I don't know if that you can't

1504
00:55:45,150 --> 00:55:43,740
do anything about it and it's just

1505
00:55:47,770 --> 00:55:45,160
negative like

1506
00:55:50,450 --> 00:55:47,780
[Music]

1507
00:55:52,190 --> 00:55:50,460
why would you say something yeah and why

1508
00:55:53,750 --> 00:55:52,200
would why would any of these beings want

1509
00:55:55,609 --> 00:55:53,760
to come forward and say here we are

1510
00:55:56,870 --> 00:55:55,619
we're like no I don't want to ruin their

1511
00:55:58,370 --> 00:55:56,880
gig and I don't

1512
00:56:00,349 --> 00:55:58,380
let people know I don't know what's

1513
00:56:02,870 --> 00:56:00,359
going on I have theories I do not know

1514
00:56:06,710 --> 00:56:02,880
what's going on I don't I don't yeah

1515
00:56:08,990 --> 00:56:06,720
I'll remember the speculation Banner of

1516
00:56:11,109 --> 00:56:09,000
I'll be putting that up over the screen

1517
00:56:13,089 --> 00:56:11,119
the whole show

1518
00:56:15,710 --> 00:56:13,099
speculating

1519
00:56:17,990 --> 00:56:15,720
all right Joe I think uh this is pretty

1520
00:56:19,670 --> 00:56:18,000
good thanks for doing this uh yeah no

1521
00:56:20,930 --> 00:56:19,680
problem good conversation with you I

1522
00:56:23,089 --> 00:56:20,940
love speculating with you because I

1523
00:56:25,970 --> 00:56:23,099
don't get to do that very often so I

1524
00:56:27,890 --> 00:56:25,980
love to speculate so thanks for doing